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THE HAVE NOTS
ORIGIN
Des Moines, Iowa, USA.
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GENRE
Punk/Punk Rock
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MEMBERS
Reformed live (2016) line-up:
David 'DaVo' Wilkins - Vocals
Rob Ogg - Guitar
Jorden Josephsen - Guitar
Quinn Bottenfield - Bass
Darren Stout - Drums
Final line-up:
David 'DaVo' Wilkins - Vocals
John 'Little John' Aagard - Guitars
Paul Gray - Guitars
Brian DuBay - Bass
John 'Big John' ? - Drums
Later line-up:
David 'DaVo' Wilkins - Vocals
Joey Jordison (Slipknot) - Guitars
Paul Gray (Slipknot) - Guitars
Brian DuBay - Bass
Greg Welts (ex-Slipknot) - Drums
Original line-up:
David 'DaVo' Wilkins - Vocals
Paul Gray (Slipknot) - Guitars
Brian DuBay - Bass
Greg Welts (ex-Slipknot) - Drums
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DISCOGRAPHY
'Forgetting Yesterday & Beating You With Kindness' (1996 Demo)
01. Destroy Madame Wong's
02. Bury The Rage
03. Decay
04. Reaction
05. Forget Yesterday
06. Character Assassins
07. Chicken Hawk / Dancing On Graves
08. Johnny Hit & Run Pauline
'Music To Commit Crimes To' (Live @ Lefty's May 21st, 2016) (2016)
01. Destroy Madame Wong's
02. Decay
03. Bury The Rage
04. Reaction
05. Forget Yesterday
06. Dancing On Graves
07. Character Assassins
08. Chicken Hawk
09. Bro Hymn
Unreleased songs:
Alcoholic Rebounds
Justin
NLNF (meaning 'No Life No Future')
The Trial
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COMMENTS
Sometimes wrongly presented as 'The Havenots' (one word).
Southern California influenced punk rock from Des Moines featuring Paul and Joey from Slipknot.
The Have Nots were formed by David 'DaVo' Wilkins and Paul Gray in the Spring of 1996 and were a staple of Safari and the Des Moines music scene.
Greg Welts had been part of the OC scene for a number of years in the early 80s and had played with Mad Parade, Organized Crime, claimed to have played a few gigs with CH3 and to have the final cut trying out for Agent Orange.
A number of members came and went during the early, pre-The Have Nots years, including Brian Seamann (drums), Dave Gitman (guitar), Jay Burmett (guitar), Pat Douglas (guitar), Trevor Powell (bass).
The short version of the story is that the band was formed with a number of different members from '91 to '96. The original line-up was Paul (guitar), Brian (bass), Greg (drums) and DaVo (vocals). Shortly after, Joey came in as a second guitarist. The band recorded the Demo about a week before their first show at Safari opening for Mercy Rule and Going To Grandmas.
The 1996 Demo (later named 'Forgetting Yesterday & Beating You With Kindness') was recorded at Junior's Motel in Otho, Iowa. The band did it all live and almost all in one take. There are only a few dubs or second takes and everyone played their part except on 'Johnny Hit And Run Pauline'... which has Greg singing the first two verses and chorus; DaVo singing the last verse and the chorus; Paul on guitar; Brain on bass; and Joey on drums. Joey, Paul and DaVo would go back a few weeks later and with the engineer, mix the tape. DaVo paid for everything and ordered the first lot of 100. There was only 200 ever made and a majority of them were either sold or given away at shows.
After Joey and Greg left, the band began to search for replacements and had found two. On guitar they brought in a local punk kid by the name of John Aagard and on drums was a transplant from Boston named, of all things, John. To keep them apart, guitarist John, because he was 16, became 'Little John' (a name that stuck) and drummer John became 'Big John' or 'One Footed John' (he liked to play with his high hat shoe off). Big John sounded great in a basement with no PA but had a completely different drumming style from Greg and it struck as odd that he would take off his high hat shoe. Anyway, the band got a last minute gig opening and they debated as to whether Big John was ready. They decided 'no' and Joey agreed to drum for them. The day of the show Big John threw a fit and it almost came to blows between him and Paul. So they told him to play but if he blew it he was out. He agreed and played the worst show the band ever did. They gave Brian the responsibility of firing him with the "You found him, you get rid of him." Policy. It's thought that Brian didn't ever tell him anything and he didn't even know he was out of the band until he showed up at the next show. However the other John stuck and was a member of the band till they called it quits. Joey played drums at the next show and it was by far the best show the band ever did.
Although there had been countless talk over the year between DaVo and Paul of reforming the band, nothing really ever came of it.
In April of 2016, DaVo reformed the band with a completely new line-up to play the anniversary of Paul's birthday. The line-up was DaVo on vocals, Rob Ogg and Jordan Josephsen on guitars, Quinn Bottenfield (DaVo's son) on bass, and Darren Stout on drums. Afterwards they decided to do shows occasionally and released a live album.
The live album, 'Music To Commit Crimes To' was recorded live at Lefty's Live Music in Des Moines on May 21, 2016. This is the reunion line-up performing the songs from the 1996 Demo. This was the second show with this line-up. They had limited time to practice and it's "... loose, a little sloppy and fast, just as punk rock should be.". The sound engineer who mixed and mastered the set was Bradley Millis.
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LINKS
The Have Nots - Official
The Have Nots - Facebook
The Have Nots - Bandcamp
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